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Lin Mu's avatar

Very interesting chapter as you mention Sunzi too. When I first time read him at middle school I think I may use and practice in business later and feel like read same book will get different feeling because as you said we gain more experience so the beginning knowledge then to wisdom . That’s why eveyone have to try and figure out their own life in unique way .

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Paul Dotta's avatar

It is interesting. Any time philosophies of life (humans, us) are applied to things that exist but are not alive (buildings, nations), the risk is forgetting that we cannot go on building - or fighting - forever, and our humanity is lost. People are not things, not companies, not countries. I should read Sunzi again, it has been 40 years of change.😊💐

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Amour's avatar

This one was refreshing to read, and it got me thinking. At the end you said “if only experience wasn’t tethered to age”—

My gut reaction was to instantly say no that they aren’t tethered or attached… after I had this visual come to mind of line graph sloping up and curving back down like a hill…. The beginning point of the line (early childhood) and the end point both touch the graph (older age), each periods of life where humans may face experiential limits. The only times in life that are truly tethered in some form.

Everything in the middle, under the hill— is all mental, free will, beliefs, perspectives— those are the tethers. Maybe that’s why we lean into truth deeply because what else is there?

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Paul Dotta's avatar

Love your thoughts, and especially the “no” ☺️ real insights are signposted with no’s. I’ve been thinking how learning often comes before doing/experiencing, and experience is linked with age…. Of how we are exposed to culture and traditions often well before we can even think what those traditions mean or their origin.

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Amour's avatar

I like that, you give the knowledge time to prove itself to be truth in a way✨

It’s frustrating, one thing that is needed everywhere is source check education — to know how to verify information but now… thats only one layer of it.

And yess I’ll get to see it soon hopefully +++ more countries. You’re a huge reason why china is on the list now too🌹

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Paul Dotta's avatar

I’m reminded that staying connected to younger people is more important the older I get. What is difficult, risky, and confusing for me often is not for them. My kids give me hope.

I’m happy you get the opportunity to experiencing new places and cultures. Let me know when you make plans for China! 👍🏼

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😂 it definitely made me lean in a little bit— and I’m glad I did 🌹

No, that’s true! the knowledge always comes before the skillset.

Isn’t there an age where experience and doing takes its own path despite cultural influences?

Especially today with media AI & online experiences + knowledge acquisition is very accessible — making experiences more accessible, planning, envisioning leading to action.

Lately I’ve been learning a lot about Korea, I had family friends who immigrated from Korea but most if not all of my knowledge of Korea is coming from media.

It’s interesting to think about how it’ll all reshape and connect us deeper to culture and experiences. It’s a wild card.

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Paul Dotta's avatar

As I get older, experience helps me approach new information cautiously, and value the later experiencing more. But it’s getting more challenging with AI and media at the same time, being able to say almost anything plausibly, and insight into what moves us is always improving. Will you get to visit Korea? I hope so. 🙏💝

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Gregory Ripley's avatar

That old 80s, 90s American Art of War ladder climber culture was perfectly captured by Michael Biehn in the movie K2. Not only did his character read Sunzi, but since he was a mountain climber (as well as a corporate ladder climber)he had a climbing machine in his office.

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Paul Dotta's avatar

I will look that up, thanks! Michael Biehn is one of the greats.

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Paul Dotta's avatar

Thank you, Zoe 💖 As much as I've "read" the Art of War, I don't believe I've read the cleaner interpretations... much like the Daodejing; and I was a narrower-minded version of the older me around today. 😊 I should give Sunzi a fresh look.

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